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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    Markus,

    I can't say enough how much I respect your decision to get back into the game. I also can't say enough how EXCITED I am that I'm going to get to shoot some of your broadheads farely soon. I'm also VERY VERY happy that I didn't waste my money purchasing the cheap ones that were being made when you sold the company.

    THANK YOU! You sir are an extraordinary person and these blades have and will continue to revolutionize my Elk Hunting here in Colorado!

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    Thank you very much Paul.

    I appreciate your kind comments. The broadheads surely will serve you very well.

    As posted in the other SilverFlame thread, I actually haven't ever sold my company (I don't know if my one-man-show is even worth at all to get called a "company").

    I have just passed on my engineering datas and drawings and I have to admit that Alaska Bowhunting Supply never wanted to make "cheap broadheads".
    They invested a lot of money and effort to duplicate the "German quality" and got tons of promises from their Asian manufacturer.
    These promises turned out not to be true at all. ABS is as least as dissappointed as myself. They had the best intentions and still offer great products, especially for the trad guys.

    Nobody is to blame but myself. After seeing half a dozen companies simple failing in copying the SF quality, how could I be so naive to think that a Chinese company can do that?
    I don't know.

    However, now these days you can say: German Kinetics is sold!
    Even if Ingo and I are still in the process of transfering the full ownership with all tools, datas, manfacturing plans etc., I will slowly fade out when Ingo and his wife are getting more and more expert in each little detail the broadheads business is all about. Surely I will be there if they ever need help or advice but I also enjoy the day when I'm totally out of this.
    I'm no business man at all and never will be.
    Just like to tinker around in my workshop, to improve some archery related stuff, to spend more time with my family and......to bowhunt as so many great guys overhere at ArcheryAddix.

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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    A pack of 100gr. I may try some 125s later on if I like them.

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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    David,

    Rough ETA?

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    Waiting to hear back from Ingo. I am guessing sometime in April. But don't hold me to that.




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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    Quote Originally Posted by DOAGuide
    Waiting to hear back from Ingo. I am guessing sometime in April. But don't hold me to that.
    To late you already said it... :)
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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    I would be interested too, I am assuming you will post on here when you are able to get them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atennishu
    I would be interested too, I am assuming you will post on here when you are able to get them?
    I will give updated info as I get it. I am as excited as everyone else.




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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    XL150 and XL 180gr. are based in the (old) 125gr., thus got the same blade length as the old 125gr. and new 150gr..

    The original blade length is only to be found on the regular 180 and 210gr. heads.

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    Markus, sorry but I still don't understand. Does the 150 XL and 180 XL both have the longer profile? Or do they have the shorter profile like the new 150 standard blade? Thanks and sorry for the multiple questions. I just want to make sure before I order. I like the XL width, but also prefer a shorter profile if possible, so may end up going with the 150 standard.

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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    Markus, I think that I understand now what the length is on the 150 and 180 XL's. One other question is; are the cut outs on the newer 150 XL look the same as the older version? Meaning the cutouts of the 150 XL look like the 125 XL, only the blade is thicker with the 150 XL? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbow42
    Markus, I think that I understand now what the length is on the 150 and 180 XL's. One other question is; are the cut outs on the newer 150 XL look the same as the older version? Meaning the cutouts of the 150 XL look like the 125 XL, only the blade is thicker with the 150 XL? Thanks!
    From my understanding the only pictures that are not correct/up-to-date are the second 125gr and third 150gr pictures of the very first post. The XL's have not been changed. They are the same as when he originally made them. I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbow42
    Markus, I think that I understand now what the length is on the 150 and 180 XL's. One other question is; are the cut outs on the newer 150 XL look the same as the older version? Meaning the cutouts of the 150 XL look like the 125 XL, only the blade is thicker with the 150 XL? Thanks!
    I will try to make photo or drawing for an exact explanation.

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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    Quote Originally Posted by Longbow42
    Markus, I think that I understand now what the length is on the 150 and 180 XL's. One other question is; are the cut outs on the newer 150 XL look the same as the older version? Meaning the cutouts of the 150 XL look like the 125 XL, only the blade is thicker with the 150 XL? Thanks!
    I will try to make photo or drawing for an exact explanation.

    Markus
    That would be great, thank you!

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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Markus
    Here is the comparison pic of the 150s mentioned above.

    The bigger blade, same with the pic in post #1 of this thread, shows the 150gr. how I made it from 2003-2008.
    With this 150gr. actually I had most of my hunting successes.

    From 2009, I decided to make it tad smaller but tougher.
    As you can see, it's the upper head.
    It's still using the .071" blade thickness but now has the outer geometry of the (old) 125gr. (pic in post #1 as well).

    Don't look too close. I know the heads are not clean and look rough. They are just taken from my box with practice / old hunting heads.
    It's just for size comparison. :)

    Markus
    I'm sue I'm just too obtuse to figure this out, but I'm so new to archery that I don't remember the original SilverFlames, and pictures don't help me much without some scale for reference. Would it be possible to get pictures of all the broadheads next to each other? Have the 150 next to the 150XL, 180 next to the 180XL, etc.? Also, having a broadhead that folks may be more familiar with in the picture as a reference would help me out a bunch. I'm looking at the 150gr Magnus Buzzcut also (although I'd have to add some weight to the shaft to get it up to where I want it), so a picture with the 150gr Buzzcut thrown in would help.
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    Re: German Kinetics Pre-orders

    Here is a sketch for comparison.

    Sorry, my time is limited.
    If you need a comparison to other manufacturers broadheads, you need to get ahold of them and measure by yourself.

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