Got a great deal on a Gamo .177 cal springer. After shooting a wide variety of pellet weights through my chrono, I settled on 8 grain hollow points. Its only been 2 weeks since I bought it but Ive already got 6 greys, some rabbits, 1 skunk and 3 *****. This thing is far more powerful that I thought they could be. Came with a 3-9 scope.