Shooting a cross bow
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i am thinking about getting one although you can not hunt deer with them in NYS but you can use them in late season in New Jersey and I live about 10 miles from the border. Jersey's late season can go as far as mid or even late feb which is one reason I am thinking of getting one.
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i think they are cool
I have shot a couple now
In Iowa you have to have a medical reason you can't draw a bow, then you can use them during bow season
That is a great idea, I think, as it keeps hunters, that can't draw a bow in the woods.
I have shot a couple now
In Iowa you have to have a medical reason you can't draw a bow, then you can use them during bow season
That is a great idea, I think, as it keeps hunters, that can't draw a bow in the woods.
In the late season in new jersey- Muzzleloaders and "regular"bow are permitted. In 2007 they added an x-bow. i think the rationale was if you can do ML and bow together why not add an x-bow cause a ML has distinct advantages over the other 2. In NYS ML and bow in late season are permitted too so why not add an x-bow. NYS bow hunter assoc. is against x-bows in any season. Even though they compete with ML in late season they feel once a x-bow is allowed in that season it will be permitted in early bow season.GANDEE said:
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Cougar you are young yet. When you get old and decripit you will like a crossbow. 
This can be debatable all day long, but IMO why have an archery season and a x-bow season at the same time. The whole thing boils down to $$$$$$. It is another way for Virginia to generate more money. If the bows and x-bows were in the same catagory, Virginia should only have one license to purchase no matter what form of bow you use. We here in Virginia have a muzzleloader season in which you can not hunt with anything but a muzzle loader. Now, looking at the point you are trying to make......anyone with a gun should be allowed in the woods too. If the state is going to charge me for each weapon I choose to hunt with, then we need to have a level playing field for the weapon chosen. :-xDougK said:
IMO,
crossbow shooting is not archery. Now should crossbows be allowed in during archery season? ONLY if the individual can not use traditional achery equipment, and be proven by a medical exam. Other then that keep them out of the woods during archery season. If you feel the need to shoot one use it during a gun season. If you aim like a gun and shoot it like a gun then use it where it belongs.
Alot of people think archery is too hard and they would take the easy way out. And to perfectly honest I really don't want that "easy way out" mentality in the woods during bow season.
Now I don't see a problem with using one on your own private land. Not your buddies private land or the farm down the street private land but your own land.
I know this comes across alittle hard but I see it every day. Other then medical reasons keep them out of the woods during bow season. :-x
crossbow shooting is not archery. Now should crossbows be allowed in during archery season? ONLY if the individual can not use traditional achery equipment, and be proven by a medical exam. Other then that keep them out of the woods during archery season. If you feel the need to shoot one use it during a gun season. If you aim like a gun and shoot it like a gun then use it where it belongs.
Alot of people think archery is too hard and they would take the easy way out. And to perfectly honest I really don't want that "easy way out" mentality in the woods during bow season.
Now I don't see a problem with using one on your own private land. Not your buddies private land or the farm down the street private land but your own land.
I know this comes across alittle hard but I see it every day. Other then medical reasons keep them out of the woods during bow season. :-x
incredible that you believe that..I take it you use a self bow/wooden arrows..OCEAN said:
that's TRADITIONAL archery equipment. If we keep them out of the woods unless medical conditions, I imagine you would support the same for compound bows. After all, anyone who uses them can use a stickbow-unless for medical reasons.
One problem I have with allowing them for "medical reasons only"-that by doing so one allows others to know he has a medical condition. Medical conditions are a private matter.
btw...a crossbow does not qualify for a gun season. It's not a firearm..doesn't shoot a bullet...and doesn't perform like a gun.
if you doubt, check out www.ibo.net and look up the xbow scores. They are lower than compounds.
I always find it disappointing that others what to restrict others-especially in a recreational activity. It makes no sense to me. As far as "easy way out"-if all there is to bowhunting is shooting a bow-then it's fairly easy-although I can tell you as a part time archery retailer quite a few do not know how to shoot a bow-they grab their equipment just before hunting season-never shoot it in between-and hit the woods.
It does not matter what type of bow you shoot, the shooting action is still the same. That is what I am refering too. It is totally different from looking through a scope (most come with scopes these days) and pulling a trigger. Knowing when to draw and how to draw while not to alerting the deer is all part of the game.
well it does not qualify as a bow either. so make a crossbow season, hell I might even get one for another hunting season.
I am well aware of the speeds of crossbows and the effective ranges.
I am not suggesting that we restrict anybody, I would like to see everybody grab a bow and archery hunt. It would be great for the sport. Just please don't call hunting with a crossbow as archery. If a person can not pull a bow, for what ever reason then they should be allowed to hunt with a crossbow, and I have no problem with it being during archery season. That is the most logical time to do it.
As a full time archery retailer, 90% of the people who look at my crossbows can pull a bow, and given the opportunity they would use it during archery season, so that is why I say it is an easy way out. As far as the skill level of most archers all I will say is we all have to started somewhere.
Again I don't mean to offend anyone but that's how I feel about it. Why have a muzzleloader season?? it like a gun but different. The same can be said for crossbows and traditional bows (which include long bows, recurves and compound
)well it does not qualify as a bow either. so make a crossbow season, hell I might even get one for another hunting season.OCEAN said:
I am well aware of the speeds of crossbows and the effective ranges.
I am not suggesting that we restrict anybody, I would like to see everybody grab a bow and archery hunt. It would be great for the sport. Just please don't call hunting with a crossbow as archery. If a person can not pull a bow, for what ever reason then they should be allowed to hunt with a crossbow, and I have no problem with it being during archery season. That is the most logical time to do it.
As a full time archery retailer, 90% of the people who look at my crossbows can pull a bow, and given the opportunity they would use it during archery season, so that is why I say it is an easy way out. As far as the skill level of most archers all I will say is we all have to started somewhere.
Again I don't mean to offend anyone but that's how I feel about it. Why have a muzzleloader season?? it like a gun but different. The same can be said for crossbows and traditional bows (which include long bows, recurves and compound
)[/quote:1qdi95ly]of course it qualifies as a bow...been called a crossBOW since time immorial.
Horton, XCalibur, TenPoint, Darton, Parker are all members of the Archery Trade Association. Only archery companies make xbows..no firearm company does. Xbow companies had booths at the ATA show..as did Ross Archery :grin:
PSE made xbows..a member as well...the NFAA also recognizes xbows..you will find xbow articles in ARROWTRADE and INSIDE ARCHERY. Both those magazines are dealer/trade archery magazines.
who says archery isn't with a stock? the xbow stock was invented long before the advent of firearms (over 1000 years)..the xbow dates to at least 400BC.
it's just another type of bow..different..like a compound with sights..compared to a stickbow shot instinctively. That it is different-does not disqualify it as a bow anymore than if I took a gun..mounted it on a turret..still a gun..if I shot it via remote viewer independantly (the military does this)....still a gun.
If I took a bow..mounted it in a Hooter Shooter..shot it..it still remains a bow.
it's very hard, in my opinion to make a substantial argument an xbow isn't a bow..when the people here do not shoot traditional bows..and at another time where not considered archers as well. Laser rangefinders, release (ie triggers) flo dot sights...expandable broadheads..it's exactly the same argument as compounds were gaining popularity..
tell me, what is your position on shoot thru blinds? a deer cannot see you draw, aim, and shoot. are they "part of the game?"
you don't offend me..I doubt you've actually hunted with a xbow..have you even shot one?
one thing I note you group compounds, longbows, and recurves all the same. At 20 yards, I group all my arrows inside a paper cup consistantly...at 60 yards I've put 2 of 3 arrows inside a playing card. Now, try that with a stickbow.
perhaps we should have a seperate stickbow season..only recurves and longbows..
and then another season of compounds and xbows...but I think the whole is better served with just one season for everyone..
I also retail MLs and centerfire rifles, and I will say I feel MLs have evolved to such a degree..with scopes..sabots..to be very close to centerfires..and perhaps even surpassed them. I certainly would prefer a T/C Encore to a 30/30 Marlin.that's another discussion..
I don't spend much time on the ground. I like to be swinging from a tree. But not too high, about 20ft will do.And trust me I have been busted several times on the draw, either it was noise or movement I don't know. But those little rascals knew I was there :???: . So I don't really have an opinion on ground blinds. My dad uses one though. he loves them ,but he is a gun hunter.
No I have never hunted with a cross bow but I have shot everything from a Parker to a ten Point and we are currently carrying excalibur which I like the best
. I group them the same because of the shooting mechanics. I will not make the claim that they shoot the same. I could not hit the ground at 40 yards with a long or recurve. But I will lay them in there with my trusty ole XT :sad
Sorry Ross guys but I could not resist that one). My point is the shooting action is the same and the results will vary with the archer. I would have to disagree.
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